Bonus Ep Viva La Kiss Cam (With Bonus Track)
In this episode the guys tackle breaking news with the Red Seat empty. Stay tuned at the end of the episode for a special treat. Weird Al, you're welcome to cover the song.
Learn more about Steven "Big Deal" Smith at https://thehiringtreebook.com/
Learn more about Tony "Two Weeks Notice" Benjamin at https://www.thegrangellc.com/
Lyrics:
He used to be C E O
A brand new CHRO, he was living the dream
But in the evening, he held her close
Learn more about Steven "Big Deal" Smith at https://thehiringtreebook.com/
Learn more about Tony "Two Weeks Notice" Benjamin at https://www.thegrangellc.com/
Lyrics:
He used to be C E O
A brand new CHRO, he was living the dream
But in the evening, he held her close
Wandering from the life he chose
Deciding to roll the dice
They attended a concert that night
List’ning to the crowd, they sang
Bodies pressed together, then they swayed
One minute, they were not in sight
Rising up, dancing in the light
The camera moved causing an awful scene
Unaware they showed on the screen
She saw the Kiss Cam, and fell in hiding
Cov’ring her face to avoid deriding
He looked up, pulled his hands away,
Hiding himself in what looked like shame
For some reason Chris thought them shy
But once they’d gone, there was never, kissing up on the screen
And that was when they shattered the dream
It was a wicked and wild fling
Social blown up by just one scene
Shattering marriages with all their fun
People couldn’t believe what they had done
Comments filled with so much hate
Wantin’ their heads on a silver plate
So go ahead and toss your rocks at them
All of you who are without sin.
She saw the Kiss Cam, and fell in hiding
Cov’ring her face to avoid deriding
He looked up, pulled his hands away,
Hidin’ himself in what looked like shame
For some reason Chris thought them shy
But once they’d gone, there was never, kissing up on the screen
And that was when they shattered the dream
Oh-oh-oh, oh-oh, oh
Oh-oh-oh, oh-oh, oh
Oh-oh-oh, oh-oh, oh
Oh-oh-oh, oh-oh, oh
Oh-oh-oh, oh-oh, oh
Oh-oh-oh, oh-oh, oh
Oh-oh-oh, oh-oh, oh
Oh-oh-oh, oh-oh, oh
Oh-oh-oh, oh-oh, oh
She saw the Kiss Cam, and fell in hiding
Cov’ring her face to avoid deriding
He looked up, pulled his hands away,
Hidin’ himself in what looked like shame
For some reason Chris thought them shy
Perhaps St. Peter will never, ever listen to their pleas
For that was when they shattered their dreams
- Steven "Weird AL" Smith
Creators and Guests

Host
Steven "Bid Deal" Smith
Steve will be the first to tell you that recruiting is marketing. He earned his Bachelor of Science in Finance at Brigham Young University and started his career in recruiting in Feb 2005. In 2008, he took a risk during a recession to help start a new company with Ryan Kohler, called ApplicantPro, a full suite HR platform for small to mid-sized businesses. In March 2025, ApplicantPro became iSolved Talent Acquisition, now serving 177,000 clients and close to 9800 employees. Before the merger, ApplicantPro made the Inc 5000 list 12 years in a row, Top Places to work in Utah 3 years in a row, and Steve was named the Small Business Utah HR Achievement Award winner in May 2024. iSolved was also named an Indeed Platinum Partner in 2023, 2024, and 2025 and is one of only ten ATS platforms in the country to obtain that designation. SHRM-CP & PHR certified, Steve currently volunteers on the Utah SHRM State Council as the immediate past State Executive Director. His book, The Hiring Tree: Laws of Applicant Attraction, was released in early 2023, and has helped thousands of organizations across the country rethink their approach to hiring. If you need help understanding the principles and role of SEO, marketing, and AI when it comes to attracting job seekers, Steve provides a solid framework for hiring effectively.

Host
Tony "Two Weeks Notice" Benjamin
I am a unique HR leader with more than 20 years’ experience working for some of Utah’s oldest, fastest growing, and most well-known companies. My experience includes Superior Drilling Products, Air Medical Resource Group, Control4, Ovivo USA and Deseret Book. I am a regionally recognized authority on building successful cultures and am an alumni speaker at DisruptHR SLC and DisruptHR St. George. I have earned an MBA from the University of Phoenix, a Bachelor’s degree from Utah State University, and am a certified Professional of Human Resources (PHR). I'm married to a woman out of my league, have three brilliant kids I doesn’t deserve and, although I travel a lot, live in Vernal, Utah.
